tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877371347086447490.post6419978023761298070..comments2024-03-26T08:03:00.564+11:00Comments on The Audient: When life makes things less funnyDerek Armstronghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13750747272647975591noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877371347086447490.post-36139633762128903542009-06-10T08:02:51.821+10:002009-06-10T08:02:51.821+10:00Well, I guess Tyson isn't so broken up about h...Well, I guess Tyson isn't so broken up about his daughter's death after all. I just found out that he got married on Saturday night, less than two weeks after his daughter died. Strange timing indeed.Derek Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13750747272647975591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877371347086447490.post-60293639514734725102009-06-09T06:57:39.498+10:002009-06-09T06:57:39.498+10:00Oh and I appreciate you saying that I live in a so...Oh and I appreciate you saying that I live in a sophisticated part of the country. Not sure I always agree with that - especially w/r/t the world of film - but I'll take it where I can get it.Don Handsomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04448844952916507647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877371347086447490.post-63876774227584977572009-06-09T06:54:03.570+10:002009-06-09T06:54:03.570+10:00WELL...I listened to Ed Helms on “Wait Wait Don...WELL...I listened to Ed Helms on “Wait Wait Don't Tell Me” over the weekend and he didn't say ANYTHING about Tyson. Oh...OK...I see your point. Tyson IS the biggest star in that film...<br /><br />Still I'm not sure it matters...big star or not, he essentially a set piece in a killer ad campaign. Tyson or not, there isn't one teen or college aged dude who sees that trailer and doesn't want to see the movie. The promotion staff is actually the true star of the movie, so let me just say that I'm thankful that they didn't play up or down the Tyson thing...playing it up would have been a tacky death-blow, but down playing it would probably have been unnecessary. Why mess with brilliant promotion?Don Handsomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04448844952916507647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877371347086447490.post-72385091327434196202009-06-09T06:29:20.239+10:002009-06-09T06:29:20.239+10:00Plus, I do think that the appearance of Tyson in t...Plus, I do think that the appearance of Tyson in the trailers probably put a ton of asses in the seats in less "sophisticated" parts of the country. He is the film's "biggest star," even if he is not a primary character. People don't watch The Office or Comedy Central in the red states, so they don't know Ed Helms; Bradley Cooper is a supporting character no matter how you slice it; and Zack Galifandfasdifasdfixis would be "Zack WHO?" even if he didn't have a difficult-to-pronounce last name.Derek Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13750747272647975591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877371347086447490.post-3516685334829654072009-06-09T06:26:37.132+10:002009-06-09T06:26:37.132+10:00True. (I know you said a lot of things, Don, but m...True. (I know you said a lot of things, Don, but my response to all of them is "true"). I guess I didn't really mean anything when I suggested that the death of his daughter might actually influence box office -- chances are that it would not. What I really meant to say was that they didn't decrease the advertising as a result of it, or if they did, the decrease did not negatively influence the box office. Mostly I just think it's harder to laugh at/with him when you know he's going through this tragedy, and I'm wondering if that seemed to affect anyone's enjoyment of his scenes.Derek Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13750747272647975591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877371347086447490.post-19079814485374692752009-06-09T05:47:37.512+10:002009-06-09T05:47:37.512+10:00When I (just) took a long lunch and went to see Th...When I (just) took a long lunch and went to see The Hangover I didn't even think about Tyson's daughter. I knew about Tyson's daughter but I also decided to see the movie today, bought my ticket, and watched the whole thing – including the Tyson scenes - not remembering at all about her. I think the reason for this us that Mike Tyson isn't really a person in the movie...he's clearly only a character and could have been played by anyone (its not surprising that he's mostly referred to as "champ", perhaps betraying the fact that the script may have just been written for a boxer to be a part of the shenanigans and not Tyson per se). There is not one echo of a daughter in the character “Tyson's” screen time, and I suspect that there is very little real-Mike Tyson in “Tyson” (the Phil Collins fetish may be true, but I sort of doubt it) nor is there any mention of any quintessential Tyson things. Assuming that Tyson got paid a year and half ago or so for his work in The Hangover and for the use of his name in the movie, I would bet that this flick isn't even on his radar. I’d also bet that the box office take for this movie had more to do with an incredible preview (in which “Tyson” is a good, but not the only, punch line), a great poster (as you’ve already discussed, Vance), and a marketing blitz for an R-Rated comedy unlike anything I can recall. The hype of The Hangover is much bigger than Mike Tyson, just like the movie is much bigger than “Mike Tyson”. I would be surprised if they had Mike Tyson out doing any promotion for The Hangover after the death of his daughter, but I’d also be surprised if they had Mike Tyson out doing promotion for The Hangover at all. I don’t think they even had him do promotion for the documentary that bears his last name. I guess I’d be more inclined to believe that the tragedy would have more of an impact on the box office take for the film Tyson which is about Mike Tyson and not “Mike Tyson”.Don Handsomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04448844952916507647noreply@blogger.com